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An excerpt from the book:

Courageous Souls
Do We Plan Our Life Challenges Before Birth?

by Robert Schwartz


Valerie’s Session with Deb DeBari

I was deeply touched by my conversation with Valerie. She had faced two very painful deaths with grace and strength, and she was willing to speak freely about those deaths in hope they would bring comfort and meaning to others in their grief.

In that search for meaning, and because the loss of a loved one is such a universal experience, I asked Valerie, and she kindly agreed, to allow me to explore her pre-birth plan with three mediums. One was Deb DeBari. Deb had already provided readings for several people who had shared their stories with me. They had found her to be sensitive, insightful, and remarkably accurate. I knew from those sessions that she is able to speak readily with “deceased” loved ones. She also hears her own spirit guides quite clearly. They work closely with Deb to provide her clients with wisdom and information about both the physical and nonphysical realms.

As the session began, D.C. immediately made contact with Deb. Though I had heard Deb speak with people in spirit, I again marveled at her ability to do so.

“I’m not the ex,” D.C. said to Deb, who repeated his words to us. “I still consider her my fiancée.” It was a sweet note on which to begin.

“I knew my life wasn’t going to be long,” D.C. continued. “I knew I wasn’t going to live to old age. I had some close calls [before the diving accident].”

“He’s showing me he had a contract,” Deb explained, referring to D.C.’s pre-birth agreements with other souls. “This accident was planned on the other side. He’s showing me a motorcycle. Did he ride a motorcycle?”

“Yes,” Valerie confirmed. “He had a few close calls with that,” said Deb. “If that didn’t take him, something else was going to.”

“What actually happened?” Valerie asked with some urgency. She had wondered about D.C.’s death for a long time.“

I felt like my brain was going to explode,” D.C. replied. “This is the worst type of death. I had to stop this.” D.C. was confirming what his friend Johnny had told Valerie: he knew he was going to die and had taken action to end his life quickly.“

What was your lesson from this?” Valerie asked him.

“There are so many,” D.C. answered. “I was a daredevil. In some ways I did not have respect for life. I put my life on the line needlessly. A lot was carried over from past lives. I had lives as a soldier. So many times I had to put my life on the line for causes I didn’t believe in. There is also a lesson to appreciate love. I learned a lot and am still around you. I’m not going back [incarnating again] right away. There are certain lessons I want to learn before I go back. I want to be better equipped. I want to know my purpose. This [last] time, I didn’t know my purpose.”

D.C. was referring to the forgetfulness each of us experiences when we enter the Earth plane. As eternal beings, we are well aware of the purposes of our lives before we incarnate. When we are born and cross the veil between the physical and nonphysical, we forget — in some instances permanently, in some temporarily — the reasons why we came here. Life challenges often serve to remind us of our purpose.

“I want you to know that I still love you,” D.C. said to Valerie.

“I love you, too,” Valerie told him.

“I don’t want you ever to believe that I left because I didn’t love you,” D.C. added. “I left because I do love you. I don’t want to use the past tense. It always continues.”

“Why is it so difficult?” Valerie asked softly. “Why can’t we just do all that on the other side?”

“On the other side,” Deb explained, “we don’t experience negative emotions like we do here. The negative emotions are — I don’t want to say not ‘allowed’ — but we don’t feel them the way we do here.”

Deb was speaking of the absence of duality or opposites in the spiritual realm. We can experience ourselves as peace, joy, and love in spirit and on Earth, but only through an incar­nation can we truly understand “lower vibration” feelings like anger and hatred. In that experience, however painful it might be, we birth the knowing of our true selves.


End excerpt from Valerie’s session with Deb. In the book, Dustin then appears and tells Valerie:

  • What they planned before they were born
  • How and why his life ended
  • How he now views his life
  • How he will attempt to contact Valerie

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